What should a speed limit look like.

"Spanfeller is a twat" (theaspiringengineer) 07/13/2018 at 15:19 • Filed to: None

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THIS is a chart of the speed limit in S pain; it is accompanied with a recommended travel speed (blue) which sometimes serves as the minimum travel speed as far as shouty S painards are concerned

After seeing that asshole Arizona rep that was showboating to the police officer I wondered what you guys think a reasonable speed limit could be.

I think that a speed limit of 140km/h (85mph) on the slow lane, and a maximum passing speed of 160km/h(100) (not sustained for longer than five minutes) could work in most highway systems without causing a significant increase in accidents

It would be a lot more complex, you don’t want a big rig doing 85mph, never mind having a car approach a big rig doing 55 or 60 at 100mph if the car user is being an idiot. It would also require more strict inspections for cars, but in the end it would save driver hours.

Also emissions do increase with speed (it’s just a fact no matter how you put it) but with newer 10 speed gearboxes the effects could be diminished to the point where the reduced driver hours could cover up the environmental costs . However, as the average american car on the road is something like 11 years old, maybe some cars aren’t ready for a higher limit.

Wacko > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:24

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don’t come to Canada

cause you will hat e our 80 and 90 km/h and 100km/h on the freeways.

Spanfeller is a twat > Wacko 07/13/2018 at 15:26

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I mean, in some highways in France the limit is reduced to 110km/h under rain or at night (from 130)

Which means people drive 140 and 120 respectably.

But I understand why, Canada can have extreme weather... which would be the main reason to have a strict speed limit; maybe you’re a reasonable canuck, but what if someone with low tread and a “woe is me” attitude tries to drive doing 140 in the rain or snow?

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:29

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When it comes to fuel consumption at high speed, having a transmission with appropriate gearing is only part of it.

The other parts are having tires with appropriate speed ratings and good aerodynamics.

Spanfeller is a twat > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 07/13/2018 at 15:32

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“aerodynamics.”

This is critical, but as cars become more slippery aerodynamics could play a smaller roll. However, frontal area continues to increase, which will be a deterrent to good economy at high speed.

Wacko > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:32

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Speed limits are low here to help pay for the cops pension fund.

they could of made summer speeds and winter speeds, but...

cars have changed lots since the 60s-70s-80s-90s, but not the speed limits.

Smaller highways and back roads are 80km/h in Ontario and Quebec .

lone_liberal > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:34

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I think the 85th percentile rule is a good way to go. 

Spanfeller is a twat > lone_liberal 07/13/2018 at 15:39

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I think so to; a dynamic speed limit that can read the average speed of the road could work, but in the case of severe weather or an accident (even entry control into a city to avoid traffic bottlenecks) there should be an imposed limit that could be below the 85 percentile.

Chariotoflove > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:39

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The proper speed limit is whatever I’m doing. Everyone in front of me is too slow, and everyone coming up behind me is going too fast.*

*every American motorist ever.

Spanfeller is a twat > Wacko 07/13/2018 at 15:40

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What if *gasps* we raise taxes to properly fund services?

Spanfeller is a twat > Chariotoflove 07/13/2018 at 15:41

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I mean, here in Mexico we don’t really have driving rules? so I tend to drive at 85mph anyway.

Chariotoflove > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:43

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Aren’t you the guy that caught shit from your parents for a speeding ticket? Or am I remembering that wrong?

Wacko > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:44

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well we already are taxed on taxes so....

Spanfeller is a twat > Chariotoflove 07/13/2018 at 15:47

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I did not get a speed ticket. They tried to coax me into saying I was doing 100mph because they supposedly had a tracker on their Jeep ; to which I admitted doing 85. They got really upset for a while but then I explained myself to them, they drove that speed in a similar situation to verify my claims,drove my car, and then stepped back. I agreed to being more careful anyway and they agreed on being more trusting.

Spanfeller is a twat > lone_liberal 07/13/2018 at 15:48

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You also need to avoid making highways dangerous for oversized cargo/trucks/older cars/etc

Spanfeller is a twat > Wacko 07/13/2018 at 15:49

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I’m sure Canada has a way to cut questionable spending and pay their Finest as they deserve without needing fines.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Wacko 07/13/2018 at 15:49

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On the bright side in Canada, our speed limits when towing a trailer or driving an 18 wheeler are higher than theirs.

For safety!!!

Chariotoflove > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:53

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Wow, and that worked.  Well done.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Wacko 07/13/2018 at 15:54

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“they could of made summer speeds and winter speeds, but...”

In theory, we kind of have that already. In rain, that 100km/h speed limit is supposed to drop to 80km/h.

But that’s not a set rule.

On a related note:

http://www.stop100.ca/

lone_liberal > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 15:55

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Trucks with oversized loads already have their own set of rules that they have to abide by and I’m fine with that, and having a slower, but reasonable, speed for trucks when it’s found that the car limit is too high for safe truck travel is fine too as long as there are objective reasons for it . People with cars that are older or aren’t able to safely do the limit have to realize that and take it upon themselves to travel at a reasonable speed . You can’t legislate for every possible scenario .

Spanfeller is a twat > lone_liberal 07/13/2018 at 15:59

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Yes, but they share the same space; merging into a highway where the speed limit is significantly higher than your cruising/safe speed is immediately more dangerous. Maybe slow lane limits could be posted when traversing on/off ramps.

As for uncapable drivers, I think a new style of license needs to be made that can be put againts the windshield, detailing the limitations of the drivers in a clear fashion (here in Mexico City it could be used to enforce a fairer Hoy No Circula)

Spanfeller is a twat > Chariotoflove 07/13/2018 at 16:02

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Well. We try to talk things out.

Urambo Tauro > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 16:15

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Part of me wants to say that better drivers with better-performing cars whould be allowed to drive faster, since they can handle the speed.

However, when it comes to sharing the road with other traffic, we really do need to retain some universal expectations. A person waiting to turn onto a main roadway needs to know instantly whether it’s safe to pull in front of another vehicle that is X distance away. They shou ldn’t have to calculate whether it’s a sports car that “deserves” to drive faster than everyone else and could therefore be closing the distance much soon er.

That said, I’m all for voiding speed limits when there’s no other traffic around for there to be a safety conflict. That’s the reason speed limits exist, right? I hate it when the letter of the law overreaches the spirit of the law.

Spoon II > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 16:57

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Fast is great, but you’re also throwing away all fuel economy at those higher speeds

Spanfeller is a twat > Spoon II 07/13/2018 at 17:24

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In the long haul the driver hour saved are really good and technology can reduced the efffects of higher speeds (better aero and gearing come to mind) 

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 17:32

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I think 85 in the slow lane would be to o much since I rarely see 18 wheelers go over 70 and they like to stay to the right, unless there’s a lot of exits and on ramps coming up. Not to mention that high of a speed limit would make merging more challenging.

I think it should stay 65-70 for the slow lane, but the far right lane could go up to 85-100 depending on how many lanes. 

Spanfeller is a twat > DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever 07/13/2018 at 17:45

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Perhaps it is, on the mergining issue, we thought about reducing the limit near on/off ramps.

gmctavish needs more space > Spanfeller is a twat 07/13/2018 at 18:18

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Ha, my truck couldn’t even do the limit in the slow lane in case. I’m maxed out around 110km/h. Most people can do at least 120 though. 

Spanfeller is a twat > gmctavish needs more space 07/13/2018 at 18:41

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That’s part of the issue here; it’s be unsafe for millions of cars if the speed limit was increased, and making two speed limits inside the same highway would be very dangerous becuae there’s still only air between the cars and the most serious accidents occur when the relative speeds are higher

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > gmctavish needs more space 07/14/2018 at 01:31

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Wow. Even my Niva will hit 140km/h. Well 138, but who's splitting hairs?

Longtime Lurker > Spanfeller is a twat 07/14/2018 at 01:48

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I figured everything else out but what is?

1) A Turismo

2)A Furgones

gmctavish needs more space > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 07/14/2018 at 02:33

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If I fully floor it on flat ground, I could probably get more out of it, but 110 or 115 is 4500rpm or so, and pushing it more makes the temp start rising... I think the main thing is the 4.63 gears. Just really not geared for the highway 

Spanfeller is a twat > Longtime Lurker 07/14/2018 at 09:00

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Man the spanish are wierd

Turismo-normal car

Furgon-large truck

Furgoneta-small cargo truck

Camion-semi/ large truck

Camioneta-SUV/CUV 

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > gmctavish needs more space 07/14/2018 at 10:10

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With the under driven transfer case (even in high range) , the Niva’s final drive works out to somewhere around 4.80:1 as well. 100km/h is 4500 rpm. 138 is sitting just off redline at around 6500 . Doesn’t really seem to care that much. Only time I’ve seen the temperature climb past 90° was when the heater valve popped and  I was also watching my coolant dump into the passenger footwell. 

gmctavish needs more space > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 07/14/2018 at 13:27

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Oh nice, that’s a pretty serious final drive.

I think my cooling system needs work, if I was confident enough in it to have it floored for extended periods on flat ground, then I could have a higher cruising speed, maybe. Though th e fuel consumption above 100 or so is pretty distressing.

Longtime Lurker > Spanfeller is a twat 07/14/2018 at 13:54

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Thanks

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > gmctavish needs more space 07/16/2018 at 22:11

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It’s especially nice when you have only 70hp, if that. 

gmctavish needs more space > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 07/16/2018 at 22:37

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Ooh yeah. I have a whole decadent 114 hp at the crank. Supposedly about 55 at the wheels